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DB ICE4 [2nd class]


Overall rating very good
17 reviews
7,7/10
Seat comfort: 6,5
Coach equipment: 7,4
Lighting: 7,8
Noise level: 8,2
Temperature: 8,5

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7,8
  • Seat comfort: 8
  • Coach equipment: 5
  • Lighting: 10
  • Noise level: 8
  • Temperature: 8

In my opinion a pretty solid ICE product that fits my standards of travel.

Ash | 14.7.2026
6,4
  • Seat comfort: 1
  • Coach equipment: 8
  • Lighting: 9
  • Noise level: 7
  • Temperature: 7

The seating is terrible; it does not deserve to be called anything other than an insult to travelers, especially for long distances, and more so if you're unlucky enough to be hit with a delay.

It is probably one of the biggest reasons, apart from DB's infamous unreliability, why many people are turned off by the idea of rail travel. Your car seat will always be more comfortable, and it is so bad that any of the upsides won't matter to you.

One of the few saving graces of this train is that when you get one during the night the light is dimmable and the luggage carriers are big enough that you can lie down under them using your backpack as a pillow, where you can dream of living in a world without these seats. The rest of the train is good: it travels quietly without many vibrations. Sure, it only goes 280 km/h, but that is less of a downside as it travels on routes where it doesn't really matter. The AC is also good, as the train stays cool in moderate heat. I haven't traveled in 40°C heat, so I can't speak for that.

All in all, if DB would rip out these seats and burn them on a stake, it would be a solid addition to the ICE fleet. Unfortunately, DB decided to use this train for high-capacity lines and treat the passengers like Ryanair travelers who choose cheap comfort for cheap prices. The FlixTrain seats are comparable to that, but when you travel with them you know what you're getting into.

Freestyle | 10.7.2026
7,4
  • Seat comfort: 6
  • Coach equipment: 8
  • Lighting: 7
  • Noise level: 6
  • Temperature: 10

It is okay.. not good but not terrible

Milo_UK43 | 8.7.2026
7,6
  • Seat comfort: 5
  • Coach equipment: 7
  • Lighting: 10
  • Noise level: 8
  • Temperature: 8

Der 412 ist betrieblich absolut kein schlechtes Fahrzeug, aber aus Sicht des Fahrgastkomforts immer noch verbesserungswürdig. Ist zwar ein absolutes Sitzplatzmonster (88 Plätze pro 2. Klasse-Mittelwagen!) und somit gut für die kontinuierlich steigenden Passagierzahlen, aber gleichzeitig ist die Beinfreiheit nicht besser als in einer S-Bahn. Im Vergleich zur ersten Auslieferungsserie hat man sogar noch bei den Sitzen nachgebessert, viel hat das aber aus meiner Sicht nicht gebracht. Dafür ist das Lichtambiente wirklich top mit dem Ambientelicht, dass vom Zugpersonal in verschiedenen Farben eingestellt werden kann.

Patrick | 7.7.2026 | Translate
9,2
  • Seat comfort: 8
  • Coach equipment: 10
  • Lighting: 8
  • Noise level: 10
  • Temperature: 10
Wallrider | 9.8.2026
9,2
  • Seat comfort: 8
  • Coach equipment: 8
  • Lighting: 10
  • Noise level: 10
  • Temperature: 10
jonathan_nj425 | 3.8.2026
6,0
  • Seat comfort: 3
  • Coach equipment: 6
  • Lighting: 8
  • Noise level: 7
  • Temperature: 6
Kralle | 26.7.2026
9,8
  • Seat comfort: 10
  • Coach equipment: 9
  • Lighting: 10
  • Noise level: 10
  • Temperature: 10
Handzídček | 16.7.2026
8,6
  • Seat comfort: 7
  • Coach equipment: 9
  • Lighting: 10
  • Noise level: 9
  • Temperature: 8
TheBigF | 15.7.2026
9,0
  • Seat comfort: 8
  • Coach equipment: 10
  • Lighting: 7
  • Noise level: 10
  • Temperature: 10
Max93 | 12.7.2026
8,2
  • Seat comfort: 8
  • Coach equipment: 7
  • Lighting: 7
  • Noise level: 10
  • Temperature: 9
br103_fan | 11.7.2026
7,8
  • Seat comfort: 7
  • Coach equipment: 9
  • Lighting: 7
  • Noise level: 8
  • Temperature: 8
ZugAlex | 7.7.2026
9,0
  • Seat comfort: 10
  • Coach equipment: 8
  • Lighting: 9
  • Noise level: 8
  • Temperature: 10
Basti | 7.7.2026
7,2
  • Seat comfort: 4
  • Coach equipment: 7
  • Lighting: 8
  • Noise level: 8
  • Temperature: 9
chr.train | 7.7.2026
5,4
  • Seat comfort: 4
  • Coach equipment: 3
  • Lighting: 5
  • Noise level: 7
  • Temperature: 8
sl_avic | 6.7.2026
4,6
  • Seat comfort: 6
  • Coach equipment: 2
  • Lighting: 2
  • Noise level: 8
  • Temperature: 5
Shorleyschorle | 6.7.2026
7,4
  • Seat comfort: 8
  • Coach equipment: 9
  • Lighting: 6
  • Noise level: 5
  • Temperature: 9
TPG836 | 6.7.2026
The review applies to the following coaches:


DB 412 Bpmbsz
33 5 4



DB 412 Bpmbsz g
33 5 4



DB 412 Bpmbsz_k
39 5 2



DB 412 Bpmbsz_XXL
33 5 4



DB 412 Bpmz
88



DB 412 Bpmz g
88



DB 412 Bpmz_k
88



DB 412 Bpmz_XXL
88



DB 812 Bpmdzf
59 8



DB 812 Bpmdzf g
59+2 8



DB 812 Bpmdzf_k
59 8



DB 812 Bpmdzf_XXL
59 8



DB 812 Bpmz
88



DB 812 Bpmz g
88



DB 812 Bpmz_3_k
88



DB 812 Bpmz_4
88



DB 812 Bpmz_4 g
88



DB 812 Bpmz_4_XXL
88



DB 812 Bpmz_XXL
88


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